Update and summary of consultation
Project Update
Thank you to everyone who participated in the round one consultation and provided us with their feedback.
In round one of our engagement we sought your feedback on how you and your community would benefit from and like to use a community facility in Cannibal Creek Reserve, Garfield North as well as receive feedback on the concept design.
Through this consultation, you told us you would like:
Suggestions for future use were:
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We appreciate you taking time to provide your feedback about the draft concept plan for the proposed Community Centre. We are considering your feedback and will be working with the Committee of Management to finalise the concept plans.
Have your say about our concept plans for this community centre
Following the Bunyip Complex Fires in March 2019, community members impacted by the fires advocated strongly for a new community centre in Garfield North to help them in their recovery. They needed a place for new and existing community groups to meet, for events to be held in, and to foster social connections.
Council recognised this need and responded by applying for funding to help build the centre with the support of user groups.
We’re pleased to confirm that the grant application was successful – the Victorian Government has committed $1.3 million from its Growing Suburbs Fund to help build the community centre. Council is putting a further $1 million towards the project.
The new multipurpose community facility, located at Cannibal Creek Reserve, Garfield North, will be available for existing user groups as well the local community.
As part of Council’s successful grant submission, concept plans for the community centre were prepared. We'd like to hear your views about the concept plans before 30 June 2022.
Impacts of disasters on affected individuals and communities can be profound, long-lasting and life changing. The Garfield North Community Centre project is one part of a long-term, multilayered social support and community development process to support the recovery of individuals and the community in townships including Garfield North, Tonimbuk, Bunyip North and Tynong North.
Community centre features
Facility feature |
Description |
Information and ideas you might want to share to help shape the final design of the community centre |
Social room |
Room to cater for 100 people Furniture. fixtures and equipment to be flexible and moveable. |
How might you use this room?
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Storage |
A storeroom big enough to store chairs and tables
Will also include a cleaners’ cupboard and electrical storage cupboard |
What are your group’s storage requirements? |
Kitchen |
Suitable for heating and serving pre-prepared food
A servery into the social room and verandah to be included |
What are your group’s catering requirements? |
Meeting room/office |
For up to 10 people and including furniture, fixtures and equipment |
What are your committee’s requirements for this space? For example, how many committee members do you have?
Would you use a white board or display board? What other equipment would you like this space to have?
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Amenities |
Unisex toilets One fully accessible facility One ambulant accessible facility |
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Spectator cover / veranda |
3 metres wide around whole building for spectators to shelter Includes stair entry and all-abilities ramp access
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How can this building improve spectator viewing of your activity?
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Landscaping |
Basic planting that’s sensitive to environment and maintenance requirements |
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Car parking |
Small car parking area, including one accessible space |
What areas do you currently use, and can we support any improvements (within our budget constraints)? |
Signs |
Internal signs to help people find their way around the centre e.g. location of toilets, meeting room names.
External signs as required by project partners |
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View Concept Plan
Here is the proposed floor plan (concept). For more detail about the site location and building elevations or to zoom in on the plans please open the Concept Plan_Floor & Elevations pdf from the Document Library on the right.
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Reason for the project
How did this project come about?
Following the Bunyip Complex Fires in March 2019, the Community Recovery Committee – Bunyip Complex Fires, advocated strongly for a new community centre in Garfield North to help the community in their recovery. This Committee consists of residents and groups impacted by the fires. They needed a place for new and existing community groups to meet, for events to be held in, and to foster social connections.
There are several community groups in Garfield North and surrounds which have no appropriate place to hold committee meetings and events. There are other groups who are also interested in providing programs and activities at the proposed centre to meet community need.
In October 2021, prior to applying for the grant funding to support this project, Council engaged with the following groups and received letters of support for the grant application:
The funding application was supported by these community groups and was successful. This phase of engagement is to gather your views about the concept plan with further consultation to occur in late 2022/early 2023 on the detailed design and operating model for the centre. The concept plan has been designed to accommodate a variety of uses and user groups through the inclusion of different rooms, facilities, amenities and storage.
Location
Does the building have to be in Cannibal Creek Reserve?
The building does not have to be in this reserve. However, an alternative location would need to meet the needs of the modular building and be located within the same community as part of the funding requirements. The location would also need to support permit requirements for the final design.
Design & Construction
Can the size of the building be altered; can it be made smaller?
Yes, we may be able to reduce the size of the overall building if that is what stakeholders such as user groups and community tell us.
Can the large area be designed to be split by a folding wall into two spaces?
Yes, dependent on budget we can investigate installing a folding wall in the social room.
Can a double sliding door be placed in the western wall?
Yes, dependent on budget we can investigate a sliding door on the western wall
Can internal spaces be changed – larger cleaners room, larger kitchen and storage room if the total space doesn’t alter?
Yes, dependent on budget we can investigate a larger cleaners room, larger kitchen and storage room, however the overall space cannot be made larger.
Will the building include off grid capability? Solar power and battery? Will it be able to be used during power outage with a generator?
This is not currently within the scope of works. We can investigate this further if the budget allows.
Will tank water be available for grey water options? How large will the tanks be? Where would the tanks and pump be located?
This is not currently within the scope of works. We can investigate this further if the budget allows.
How will the space be heated and cooled?
Heating and cooling will most likely be using split system air conditioners, however these details will be finalised during the design process
Will landscaping to the area be included?
Yes, there is an allocation in the project budget for landscaping.
How many people will the building cater for?
The preliminary designs allow for up to 100 people within the social room.
Safety & Accessibility
The existing plan impacts the disabled mount ramp beside the Williams arena and may impact access to the main arena for trucks. Can the build avoid impacting areas like this?
Accessibility is extremely important; we will design the new building to suit the existing space enhancing accessibility.
Will the building be set up with sprinkler system – for bushfire situations.
The BAL (Bushfire Attack Level) rating for the building will determine requirements such as sprinkler systems. This is yet to be determined.
Will external lighting and car park lighting be included?
Yes, there will be some external lighting and carpark lighting included in the project. Details will be finalised during the design process.
How will potential vandalism be managed?
Council will consider Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design (CPTED) principles to discourage vandalism.
Construction impacts
How much of the reserve will be closed while the build takes place? When and for how long?
The building contractor will determine the construction site area (area to be fenced off) prior to construction. The project timeline indicates the Design and Construction Contractor will be appointed late 2022 and the build will take place from April 2023 and should be completed by January 2024. We will continue to communicate with the Reserve Committee and user groups regarding the build timeline and impact to the reserve.
Furniture and Fittings
Will furniture be included in the build?
Yes, there is an allocation in the project budget for furniture, fixtures and equipment.This will include tables, chairs, pinboards, kitchen equipment, AV equipment and other items within the allocated budget.
Maintenance
Who will be responsible for the ongoing maintenance and upkeep and will there be any financial support for this?
Department of Environment, Land, Water & Planning (DELWP) , Council and the Reserve Committee of Management will work together with user groups and the community to establish a facility management model that best fits the use of the new centre.
Parking
How many parking spaces will there be and where will they be located? Will there be disabled parking spaces?
Yes, parking, including disabled parking will be provided. Details will be finalised during the detailed design process.
About the project
The $2.3 million project will be jointly funded by the Victorian Government’s Growing Suburbs Fund and Cardinia Shire Council’s Capital Works Program.
The project has come about due to a lack of adequate community meeting spaces to serve the Garfield North community and surrounding areas. The proposed site is located within Cannibal Creek Reserve, which covers over 25 acres of bushland, walks, equestrian arenas, and activities area. The reserve is Crown land and managed by a DELWP-appointed community Committee of Management.
Currently, the only facilities at the reserve are a stand-alone canteen, small pony club shed and a public toilet block which is locked when not in use. There are currently no indoor facility for the Committee of Management and existing reserve user groups to hold committee meetings, social events, or to remain dry in inclement weather.
Similarly, there are several other community groups in Garfield North and surrounds which also have no appropriate place to hold committee meetings and events. There are other groups who are also interested in providing programs and activities at the centre to meet community need.
This issue of lack of facilities and places for social connection was magnified in the wake of the Bunyip Complex Fires, which occurred on 1 March 2019 when several bushfires commenced in and around the Bunyip State Park due to lightning strikes, and eventually joined to form one large fire impacting several communities in the area, including Garfield North, Tonimbuk, Nar Nar Goon North and Tynong North. 29 homes were destroyed, and an additional two buildings were damaged and deemed uninhabitable. A further 67 sheds and outbuildings were also damaged.
Currently, the community continues in a recovery phase, where impacts of disasters on affected individuals and communities can be profound, long-lasting and life changing. The Garfield North Community Centre project is one part of a long-term, multilayered social and developmental process to support the rehabilitation of individuals and the community at large in this area.
Your ideas about uses for the Community Centre:
30 June, 2022
ALL of SWAMPYS MATES says:
A HUGE THANKYOU to ALL that participated.The FUTURE is now looking BRIGHT and ROSY
28 June, 2022
Simon says:
Speaking to council earlier they are happy to receive phone calls re this and concerns. Contact Bronwyn (recovery)
27 June, 2022
Clarkes says:
At least 9 halls within 10km of GN. We need to use what we already have
27 June, 2022
Clarkes says:
Refund the rent, building and planning permit fees, arborist costs etc, council charged those who lost houses. More helpful to more people
27 June, 2022
Clarkes says:
Bad location. Bad design. . This is a petty “ everyone else has one” WANT. It is not a NEED it is a waste of money.
26 June, 2022
Local Yokel says:
Noble to suggest an overpass instead but, thats funded by vic rds, not council. Hand back the funds and they'll waste it in Pakenham Instead
26 June, 2022
Local Yokel says:
Local residents, lets not bicker and squander this opportunity. It will be used for the next 30 or 40 yrs not just for todays stakehoders.
26 June, 2022
Local Yokel says:
2 mil should buy us a much more substantial community centre than what's proposed. Or is the shire pocketing 1 mil of it? Lets consult more.
26 June, 2022
Jason says:
Hire cost? Will a cleaner be provided or user cleaning? No. of parking spaces?
IT-AV & other service support assistance
Native plants
26 June, 2022
Resident says:
what are you going to do about the men love men situation
26 June, 2022
Resident says:
on looks will be in aircon room and the poor kids from pony club are riding in the hot sun
26 June, 2022
Resident says:
the user groups wont use this due to the extra cleaning after there big weekends
when everyone just want to go home
what a waste off $$$
26 June, 2022
Resident says:
l would like to see the old canteen and toilets pulled down and
replaced with the new building
why place it up top in a busy place
26 June, 2022
Penny says:
Concerned citizen nope the creator of the GN community page is not the person that came up with this idea. This idea was initiated by others
26 June, 2022
Chloe J says:
Not entirely happy with location of project.
24 June, 2022
GarfieldTheOrangeCat says:
in my stomach, it shall be. Greetings. If my kind shall rest thy fluffy paws in this supposed place. 1 Do it fair & Square 2 Lasagna
meow
24 June, 2022
SWAMPY says:
BENEFITS. Net Zero 2050. ALL inclusive social interaction.Prevent 1 Bushfire, 1 suicide. History and Environment studies, Santa stop,etc etc
23 June, 2022
Concerned citizen says:
CMON COUNCIL!!!!! Haven't heard a thing from you!!!!
23 June, 2022
Concerned citizen says:
Who is actually benefiting from this incredible waste of taxpayers money? There's so much more that trumps people needing a place to meet.
23 June, 2022
Concerned citizen says:
Checked out the GN Facebook page. Mmmm! 2 members, is this the same 2 members who came up with this brilliant brain child?
23 June, 2022
SWAMPYS MATE says:
A "COST--BENEFIT ANALYSIS" spread evenly over the next 100 yrs for a HALL. = $2.30 / hr. Export the POWER from a 30kw/hr SOLAR FARM. = ??
22 June, 2022
Respondent says:
Swampys Mate a GN facebook page has already been set up years ago.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/244314242390004
22 June, 2022
Kevin says:
This area is mainly used by WGQHA and other equine users.I think it is a lot of money to be spent on a building and no money spent on arenas
21 June, 2022
TiredAndGrumpyMrToad says:
Toad turned around, grunting & stomping his foot on the old log. "How Utterly Ridiculous Sir, We Never Asked for this Nonsense!" He replied.
21 June, 2022
SWAMPYS MATE says:
Beyond "HALL opening ". Commence building a SOLAR FARM above cutting arena. Our DREAM to share "POWER" with all GN residents. THANK YOU ALL
21 June, 2022
Garry Burns says:
A CALL OUT for 9 GN residents to join a DYNAMIC mind bending team to administer the HALL. 3 from the Sth, 3 from the Nth, 3 from the centre.
20 June, 2022
Tommy says:
When can we vote locally in Garfield for programing settups? I'd like to see a rehabilitation project towards re planting stronger trees.
20 June, 2022
TheHonestOgreUnicorn says:
paint on wall an prettey unicrons but MAke it so theyR living in swamp. with pinetrees and annoyed protesting toads unhappy with our forest.
20 June, 2022
SWAMPY says:
INVITED-- ALL GN RESIDENTS to plant 1 succulent each on the HALL embankments-- WHEN, 5th MAY 2024--10am to 1pm.
19 June, 2022
SWAMPYS MATE says:
WANTED-- 2 GN residents to set up the " GARFIELD NORTH COMMUNITY" facebook site-- A display and discussion board for ALL things GARFIELD Nth
18 June, 2022
creativecupcakecats says:
A Cotton-Wooly-Owl-FloorRug But BIG1 make Sure it has gIAnoRMoUS EYES like ur soul ☺&dangly Dreamcatcers so visitors headaches R taken away.
17 June, 2022
Layla says:
This, may be Good. But I agree, only if it were Switched rooms and Somewhere Else other then This location.. we are very unhappy about this.
16 June, 2022
SWAMPY says:
In a RECESSION the need for a ALL WEATHER facility will become clear. FOCUS on the comfort of ALL sponsors and spectators, before they leave
15 June, 2022
Lheight says:
There is already infrastructures for gathering there, up date these spend the money on a overpass that will save lives!
15 June, 2022
Lheight says:
Too big Where are the cars going to be parked Are there events at night? How will the noise level be controlled Overpass better use of $$
15 June, 2022
LHeight says:
Why so big? 100 people? Where are the cars going to be parked? Are there events at night? How will the noise level be controlled?